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Interview: Nov 21st, 1998
TPOD Signing Report - John Novak (Paraphrased)Question
Who or what is the Tamyrlin?Robert Jordan
RAFO.Footnote
In the glossary of the split version of The Eye of the World, RJ hints that Tamyrlin was the person to discover the One Power at the dawn of the Age of Legends. Some fans believe this was the previous incarnation of Lews Therin/Rand.Tags
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Interview: Nov, 1993
Trinity College Q&A (Paraphrased)Robert Jordan
He raised the point that Rand's creeping insanity may manifest in much more subtle ways than the people of Randland expect...which leads one to wonder about Rand's increasing withdrawal and possible megalomania. I think he is aware of the net discussion: he expressed surprise at the amount of analysis and comparison with Tolkien, Dune etc. (I felt tempted to mention A. A. Milne) and somebody in the audience compared WoT to Atlas Shrugged, which really seemed to surprise him. His attitude is that once he has written one book (and publicized it) it is time to move on to the next...The only deliberate connection between WoT and any other modern fantasy was giving the first 100-odd pages of The Eye of the World a Lord of the Rings-esque flavor, to start people off in familiar territory.Tags
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Interview: Nov, 1993
Trinity College Q&A (Paraphrased)Robert Jordan
Specific questions: Lews Therin Telamon's suicide was emphatically not balefire, but an overload of the Power. And when Verin was mentioned, he just said he hoped he kept surprising people.Tags
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Interview: Dec, 1993
Letter to Tom McCormick (Verbatim)Question
Ask him if he knows about all the Jordan junkies on the network. Tell him we love his books and are frenzied to know when the next one is coming out. Get him to confirm that Verin is not Black. (Not that he will of course; then again, those of us who know, know that she isn't.) Please find out if Lews Therin balefired himself in the prologue in The Eye of the World, or if he just drew too much of the One Power. If it isn't critical to the continuing plot, I'm sure he'll say.Robert Jordan
I know about the "Jordan junkies" (ahem! Blush!), now. Lews Therin did not use balefire on himself; he simply drew as much of the One Power as he could, then kept on pulling it in. As for Verin: read and find out. Surely you agree with Oscar Wilde about the suspense? I will try to keep you right a tiptoe as long as I can.Tags
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Interview: 1994
Stories from the LOC Signing Tour (Paraphrased)Dennis
(small report)Robert Jordan
I asked him what we had picked up on that he thought we wouldn't, and he wouldn't tell me. Did say that the two ways of looking at the Rand/Lews Therin thing (Lews Therin causing Rand's madness/Lews Therin a manifestation of Rand's madness) was intentional. Wouldn't tell me which one it was though....Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Brandon Sanderson (3 January 2011)
Man, I love the prologue of The Eye of the World. Some of my favorite writing in the entire series. Great insight into Ishamael's personality pre-madness.BRANDON SANDERSON
People like to talk of Rand's character development. Elan -> Ishamael -> Moridin is almost as interesting to me. His outlook has evolved so much.JUSTIN LEE
Has it really evolved? he's still the megalomanical favorite/topdog he's always seen himself to be.BRANDON SANDERSON
No, he's really changed a lot. He's a fatalist now, as I mentioned to @dragonmount. He knows far more.JASON DENZEL
How would you compare Ishamael's motivations from when he was Elan vs when he was Moridin?BRANDON SANDERSON
Elan is actually more selfish. He still thinks he will rule, that the Dark One will take over the world and create a new one.BRANDON SANDERSON
Moridin has been through madness and touched the mind of the Dark One. He is far more fatalistic, and actually less selfish.TEREZ
And therefore...less predictable? :)BRANDON SANDERSON
I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that quote in relation to my tweet.FOOTNOTE—TEREZ
In TGS 39, Verin tells Egwene that the Dark One looks for selfishness more than any other trait in his leaders—namely, the Chosen—because it makes them predictable.AUSTIN MOORE
Is it wrong for me to have been under the impression that Moridin isn't "mad?" I've thought he was less mad than he was...AUSTIN MOORE
...as Ishamael. Mad being crazy not mad being evil because obviously he's evil.BRANDON SANDERSON
Moridin is less insane than Ishamael was. Much as Rand is less insane than Lews Therin was.AZRAL HANAN
You say Moridin is less selfish. Is he now a Dark Buddha wanting to end the suffering of existence in the nirvana of oblivion?BRANDON SANDERSON
It's not that he's unselfish. But compare his lines in The Eye of the World and Knife of Dreams and Towers of Midnight to see the difference.Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Derek Daniels (3 January 2011)
Never did figure out what it is exactly that killed Lews Therin in the prologue. Thoughts after reread?Brandon Sanderson (3 January 2011)
It's a toss up between getting consumed by holding too much Power and getting struck by that bolt of energy from the sky.Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Brandon Sanderson (4 January 2011)
Back to reading The Eye of the World, all. Posts to follow. I'll try to keep it at a steady stream, not a flood.BRANDON SANDERSON
WoT Easter Egg: there's an easily overlooked line in the prologue of The Eye of the World which gives huge foreshadowing of things Rand can do in Towers of Midnight.TEREZ
I always thought the fact that Lews Therin could sense that there were no people around for miles was interesting.BRANDON SANDERSON
I should have guessed that you'd be the only one who would pick out the right line, Terez.BRANDON SANDERSON
The Easter egg in the prologue has to do with Lews Therin sensing the lack of people around him for miles and miles.BRANDON SANDERSON (5 JANUARY)
Regarding yesterday's Easter Egg, Maria mentions RJ was preparing a blog post on the concept.BRANDON SANDERSON
For those who missed it, it has to do with Lews Therin sensing nobody was nearby when he made Dragonmount.BRANDON SANDERSON
And before you ask, no, I can't say more. Sorry. Suffice it to say that what is in the books stands as enough of an answer, for now.TEREZ
My original(ish) post on the ability to sense for people: http://bit.ly/safegates in '06. I was a noob(ish) then.BRANDON SANDERSON
Interesting theory. What do you think of it now?TEREZ
I think it still holds up (despite a few details I missed), but I think it's not what you were getting at. :)Footnote
Most think this has something to do with the 'one with the land' thing. (See the Fisher King tag for more info.)Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Brandon Sanderson (4 January 2011)
I love that RJ gave Rand such a personal, powerful internal problem at the start with questioning his relationship to Tam.BRANDON SANDERSON
Though it's easy for us to say "Of course Tam's your father, silly" this issue was deep and meaningful for Rand and served as...BRANDON SANDERSON
...a wonderful way to make the book about more than the action. It also foreshadows Rand's later identity crisis with Lews Therin.BRANDON SANDERSON
"I don't know that you are worth it, sheepherder, no matter what she says."—Lan, to Rand, walking with Moiraine to help Tam.Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Brandon Sanderson (10 January 2011)
Curious: First mention of the Fisher King concept happens when Rand is dreaming, still half-sick, in the back of Bunt's wagon.BRANDON SANDERSON
Is this our first Lews Therin moment? Bunt wouldn't have mentioned it, and neither would have Ishamael. Unless it's actually something Thom said.TEREZ
I assumed was a True Dream, including Thom's connection to the queen, and Rand & Tam with the sword.TEREZ
But the first Lews Therin moment was in chapter nine when Rand recognized Shayol Ghul (and maybe Ishamael too).MATT HATCH
I'd say Ishamael recognition is a fact in chapter nine. There are some nice comparisons with the prologue.BRANDON SANDERSON
Well, you probably have a point there. Though you might argue that this is a shade of Lews Therin speaking to him, for the first time.TEREZ
I might, but I wouldn't. :D It's more interesting to me the other way, and Rand didn't dream Lews Therin's dreams much.TEREZ
He remarked on the strangeness of it in The Path of Daggers before Lews Therin came back (after having been chased away by Cadsuane).BRANDON SANDERSON
Wait. What?TEREZ
I remembered it wrong. Lord of Chaos 19: 'Lews Therin's dreams. That had never happened before, not dreaming the man's dreams.'TEREZ
In A Crown of Swords 41 while Lews Therin is gone, Rand still hears the voice in a dream.BRANDON SANDERSON
Oh, I see what you're saying. (I think.) Is your argument this: "Lews Therin doesn't talk to Rand in dreams. Therefore, this isn't Lews Therin?"LUCKERS
I think deep down her argument is probably more 'Lews Therin doesn't talk to Rand at all'. ;)TEREZ
Whether Lews Therin really talks to Rand at all or not, this would be quite atypical & strange. As Thom? Why?LUCKERS
Why would Lews Therin speak as Thom? The moustaches baby, the moustaches.BRANDON SANDERSON
Curious. So who do you think is speaking to Rand the Fisher King words, if it's not a Lews Therin memory?TEREZ
It's a dream. Why does there have to be a 'real' ;) person involved?TEREZ
But I do appreciate the hint. :) [That is, the hint that Lews Therin was also one with the land, and was aware of it. This might be what Brandon was getting at with his Easter egg thing.]BRANDON SANDERSON
I don't normally dream things that happen to be word-for-word true prophecies. Rand's not a Dreamer. He got the info somewhere.TEREZ
Now I'm going to cry. :( Why can't Rand be a Dreamer?? So chapter nine was completely fabricated by Ishamael? That is weird.TEREZ
None of the other dreams influenced by Ishamael were anything like that. How did he create all of those people in Tar Valon?TEREZ
Why would Ishamael first prevent Rand from reaching Tar Valon, and then force him to go to the Tower? Makes no sense. :(BRANDON SANDERSON
Lol. I'm not sure if you're being serious or not. Is there some theory on Rand being a Dreamer that I should know?TEREZ
I'm being serious. There's a hint Asmodean's warding might prevent True Dreams. Also...TEREZ
Egwene was guided to it, but Rand had no one to guide him if he was a Dreamer. And everything in The Eye of the World nine was true.BRANDON SANDERSON
Either it's Lews Therin, it's something someone told him in the real world, or it's Ishamael giving him the info.TEREZ
Maybe he had heard The Karaethon Cycle from Thom at fireside on the way to Baerlon, though. Would make sense.TEREZ
Well, not on the way to Baerlon, since he mentions them for the first time in Baerlon. But maybe on the Spray.BRANDON SANDERSON
I'll entertain an argument that it's basically 'known' information, or that Thom mentioned it.LUCKERS
Did you see my cultural idea? That it might be Rand's subconscious—like the way everyone knows the Dark One's name?BRANDON SANDERSON
But it really seems like a memory, and we've never seen people mentioning it, while naming the Dark One we see.BRANDON SANDERSON
I'll look up answers on this one for sure; right now, I'm just speaking by instinct. But I read the Fisher King concept as...BRANDON SANDERSON
...coming from Lews Therin/Rand's subconscious and being fed through Thom's mouth as Rand's mind fit it into the dream.BRANDON SANDERSON
I'm also pretty sure Rand's not a Dreamer, though he does have uncommon power over his dreams.BRANDON SANDERSON
But he does not see specific prophecies in his dreams (other than a few debatable moments) nor enter Tel'aran'rhiod spontaneously.BRANDON SANDERSON
But I'll look into it. I rebel against it because Dreaming is basically Egwene's thing.TEREZ
Also, didn't Perrin pretty much just show her that it wasn't HER thing any more? :pTEREZ
And yeah, I know his prophetic dreams only happen in Tel'aran'rhiod. But I just want a male Dreamer dangit!BRANDON SANDERSON
Perrin does something different. Also, Egwene was caught off guard and had been spending a lot of time lately doing other things.BRANDON SANDERSON
It would be unwise to assume that Perrin is better at Tel'aran'rhiod than she is because of that moment. He had just spent weeks training...BRANDON SANDERSON
...specifically to fight like that in Tel'aran'rhiod, while Egwene has been forced to fight other fights and let herself get a tad rusty.TEREZ
haha, yeah I know. I have argued much the same against Egwene-haters. I did enjoy that moment though.TEREZ
Why do all the prophets have to be female? Foretelling I can see because of the taint, but the rest? Except Perrin.TEREZ
The Thom dream used to make me think I was missing something, or maybe a deleted scene. Very odd.TEREZ
Also, even with the taint seems like we should have had a male Foretelling by now, or a dreamer. Something.BRANDON SANDERSON
Well, out of fondness, I'll let you know that I DO know of at least one male (other than Perrin) who can see the future.TEREZ
lol. The male Aelfinn?BRANDON SANDERSON
Dang. You're too clever. Okay, then, I promise you there's actually a man—human—who meets your requirements.Footnote
In retrospect, it seems most likely that RJ did in fact pare down Thom's earlier conversation about the prophecies (in The Eye of the World Chapter 13, or in another place), not wanting to give too much away. The dream in Chapter 34 should have been a recollection of what Thom had told him. It's possible that Brandon was correct and it had something to do with Lews Therin, but I find it unlikely for many reasons (some covered in the conversation). Also worth noting is that in the previous chapter, during Rand's fever dreams, Thom mentioned the Black Ajah, which had not previously been mentioned to Rand on screen. Also, this hint from Brandon was the first of many concerning the male prophet; the other clues make it pretty clear that Moridin is a Dreamer.Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Thomas Grossnickle (12 January 2011)
What philosophies have influenced WoT? I feelt a bit of the Hindu Creator, Preserver, & Destroyer ...THOMAS GROSSNICKLE
...with Lews Therin an avatar of preservation and Rand the Destroyer...THOMAS GROSSNICKLE
Who destroys the world when it is beyond preserving, only to create it anew.Brandon Sanderson (12 January 2011)
I see a lot of that too. I'm convinced RJ blended something from most major philosophies and mythologies into the books.Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Luthvian (26 February 2011)
If all of the Forsaken were sealed in the Bore, and the Madness came after that, how can the prologue of The Eye of the World happen?LUTHVIAN
I mean, Ishamael is walking around and talking and channeling, shouldn't he not be able to do so?LUTHVIAN
...unless the whole thing is a vision of Lews Therin's madness?Brandon Sanderson (28 February 2011)
That was really Ishamael, not madness. He wasn't sealed in as strongly as the others, remember.Tags
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Interview: Apr 5th, 1996
Balticon XXX - Bill Garrett (Paraphrased)Bill Garrett
The Strike at Shayol Ghul
Many people have asked about a short piece of writing called "The Strike at Shayol Ghul". Most people want to know: "Is it actually real, and if so, what does it say?"
Robert Jordan
First, it is real. Robert Jordan wrote it and it was included in the BaltiCon printed program. It's about four pages long in printed form, and is now available on the Web courtesy of Tor Books. Copies of the convention program, which includes the story, may still be available. See Colette Schleifer's announcement for information.
The free availability of The Strike at Shayol Ghul on the eeb makes this summary rather superfluous (I wrote it when Strike was only available in printed form, in very limited quantity) but I'm keeping it here for completeness. Now on with my summary.
In "The Strike at Shayol Ghul", Jordan describes the events leading up to the Sealing of the Bore from the perspective of a Third Age historian (at about the time of the story) who discovered some fragmented manuscripts that were written shortly after the Breaking. The single biggest fact revealed is that the during the War of the Shadow, the Aes Sedai were considering two alternate plans for defeating the Dark One.
Lews Therin proposed that the Dark One be resealed in his prison by plugging the Bore. The plug would be inserted by thirteen linked male and female channelers and would be held in place by the seven seals, which were focus points of the weaving. 20,000 soldiers would accompany them to Shayol Ghul, where the Bore could most be sensed. Lews Therin's plan had supporters and opponents. Opponents argued that the Seals required precise positioning, and that any slight error would tear the Bore open wider.
The alternate plan, which also had its share of supporters and detractors, was to build two large sa'angreal (one for saidin, one for saidar) and use them to build a new prison around the old one for the Dark One. The sa'angreal were so powerful that special "key" ter'angreal had to be constructed for channelers to use them safely. Opponents of this plan expressed concern that the sa'angreal could fall into the control of channelers following the Shadow or be misused accidentally by channelers serving the Light. Either way, the sa'angreal were expected to be powerful enough to destroy the world and beyond. Opponents also worried that while the sa'angreal might enable the building of a wall strong enough to contain the Dark One's strength right then, the Dark One was gradually chipping away at the Bore and gaining more power in the world. At some point, he might become powerful enough to tear down the new wall.
Supporters of each plan began preparation, even though the Aes Sedai as a whole failed to reach a consensus.
Latra Posae, an outspoken female Aes Sedai, considered Lews Therin's plan so dangerous that she organized support amongst the female Aes Sedai against it. In fact, she obtained the unanimous agreement of every female AS of significant power—in other words, every female Aes Sedai who could possibly be asked to assist in the force that would place the seven seals into the Bore to seal it shut. They believed this effectively halted Lews Therin's plan, as the men who supported him could not link without any cooperating women. (It was believed that correct placement of the seals required a linked group of the most powerful male and female channelers.)
While the Aes Sedai were fighting over which plan should be used, the Shadow advanced rapidly. Lews Therin decided that something had to be done right away, so he covertly organized 113 male channelers who supported his plan (they were later called the Hundred Companions, a slight miscount) and over 10,000 soldiers who were also loyal to him. The force stormed Shayol Ghul, when all thirteen Forsaken were there, and put the Seals into place.
At the moment of the resealing, the Dark One drove all of the surviving Hundred Companions (about 68, at that point) instantly insane. The Dark One also tainted saidin, although this wasn't discovered until after hundreds of other male channelers had been driven mad from it.
Reads the introduction of the manuscript: "Whoever reads this, if any remain to read it, weep for us who have no more tears. Pray for us who are damned alive."
Footnote
A version of The Strike at Shayol Ghul appears in The World of Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time (aka the BWB).Tags
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Interview: 2011
Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)Terez (10 August 2011)
It's official: Construct theory wins. http://bit.ly/opIvk4 (Sorry @BrandSanderson ...sort of, anyway. :p) (It was out there, so...)Brandon Sanderson (10 August 2010)
Construct theory? Should I know what that is?TEREZ
Nope, it's a secret. :p (The Lews Therin debate - real/construct; another person/delusion caused by insanity and memories).FOOTNOTE—TEREZ
This led to a flurry of tweets between me and Luckers, none of which Brandon responded to, but he did have to step in at one point with an email to assure us that he didn't get in trouble with Team Jordan in any way for the GeekDad interview I linked. (It seemed the most logical explanation for his subsequent clamming up on the issue, and still does really, but it's the official word.) It's also at least a little bit likely that he was hedging on not knowing what construct theory is.Tags
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Interview: Jun 26th, 1996
Compuserve Chat (Verbatim)Karl Schwede
Is there any particular inspiration for the Forsaken, and the other antagonists in your series, as there are for the women characters? Demandred and how he was always an inch behind Lews Therin (in the Power, in swordsmanship etc...), for example—was there a particular inspiration for that?Robert Jordan
Well, there are—and I won't go into details because I want to keep the mythological and legendary roots hidden—I don't want to have people spending more time discussing the legends than the stories! The thing is there are several legends and myths based on such jealousy, on the man who is just a half a step short of another man. The woman who would have been the greatest of her age, but there was another who was just a bit better. That sort of jealousy leads to the worst kind of hatred. When someone can easily defeat you, there's not that kind of jealousy. But when he beats you in a photo finish every single time, that is when emotions begin to curdle and rancor sets in, and you find yourself with this festering deep inside that can turn into murderous hatred.Tags
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Interview: Jan 14th, 1997
Letter to Thomas Howard (Paraphrased)Thomas Howard
Would you please state for the record that Rand's helper at the end (of A Crown of Swords) was not Lews Therin?Robert Jordan
To quote (and God do I like to hear this): "Lews Therin Telamon is dead, not walking around Shadar Logoth."THOMAS HOWARD
I'm quite sure it's a safe assumption that he isn't walking around anywhere else either.Footnote
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Interview: Oct 22nd, 1998
TPOD Signing Report - Pam Basham (Paraphrased)Pam Basham
Regarding the Dragon and the Dragon Reborn (and Graendal's thoughts about Ishamael's musings):
"Is this soul born in any other Age, or only at the advent and (theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as the Dragon/the Dragon Reborn?"
Robert Jordan
This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as the Pattern wills. "It" is born in other Ages, but in a non-Dragon incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age.Pam Basham
In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme—because Hawkwing recognizes this soul. This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "Lews Therin", but apparently they've been hangin' together in Tel'aran'rhiod and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation. (My interpretation.)Tags
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Interview: Nov 21st, 1998
TPOD Signing Report - Ray Chason (Paraphrased)Ray Chason
My question at the Bailey's Crossroads signing (21 Nov 1998) was:
Lews Therin wore the Ring of Tamyrlin. Who or what was this named for?
Robert Jordan
Ah, Read And Find Out.Ray Chason
I didn't quite expect that. I thought this question was so far removed from the plot that Hizzoner wouldn't mind answering it. Furthermore, I had hoped to settle some of the local Looney Theories on this topic, most of which sound like just that to me. But he said something about patterns of speculation that he didn't want us getting into just yet.Footnote
This information was inserted in the glossary of To the Blight, the second half of the split version of The Eye of the World.Tags
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Interview: Nov 1st, 1998
SciFi.com Chat (Verbatim)Rothaar
When Rand takes Verin and the others through a Portal Stone in The Great Hunt, at the end of each life he hears "I have won again Lews Therin". I thought that if the Dark One won even once the Wheel would be broken and therefore the Dragon would not be reborn again. How could the Dark One have won before to be able to say "again"?Robert Jordan
There are degrees of victory. The Dark One can achieve victory by breaking free, but can also achieve lesser victories. Such as by stopping the Dragon Reborn from doing other things he was born to do. It isn't as simple as him being born to fight The Dark One. It's never simple.Tags
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Interview: Aug 27th, 1999
Melbourne Film Festival - Raf Kaplan (Paraphrased)Robert Jordan
Someone asked if the Dragon is always male, and he told them to Read And Find Out.Tags
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Interview: Mar, 2000
Letter to Paul Ward (Verbatim)Paul Ward
Possible question: How did the Hundred Companions link to make the seals on the Dark One's prison?Robert Jordan
They did not do it linked. They worked together individually, which made it more difficult, and that is part of the reason the seals have weakened so quickly. I never meant to imply linking. It is possible for large numbers to do a large project without linking, although it is more easily done in a circle.Tags
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Interview: Nov 14th, 2000
SciFi.com Chat (Verbatim)Rhodric
What was Lews Therin's age at the time of the sealng of the Bore, and was his prowess with the sword (and Sammael's) comparable to modern blademasters?Robert Jordan
Read and find out!Tags
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Interview: Nov 14th, 2000
SciFi.com Chat (Verbatim)Mormegil
In Winter's Heart, Lews Therin says, "We are not builders, not you, or I, or the other one." Now I know if I ask who the other one is, I know I'll just get a RAFO, but should we be able to figure out who the 'other one' is?Robert Jordan
You should have some hints. Follow your hunches.Tags
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Interview: Apr 8th, 2001
Elf Fantasy Fair - Gonzo (Paraphrased)Dragon Theif [sic]
Is it possible for two souls to inhabit one body at the same time without the aid of the Dark One's powers?Robert Jordan
RAFO.GONZO THE GREAT
Obvious :D .Footnote
This question was asked because some people at Theoryland believed that Rand and Lews Therin were separate souls.Tags
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Interview: Apr 6th, 2001
Rotterdam Signing Report - Aan'allein (Verbatim)Kurafire
Are the ruins of Lews Therin's palace still in the current world?Robert Jordan
Ah, no.Kurafire
They are really gone?Robert Jordan
They are really gone.Tags
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Interview: Apr 6th, 2001
Dromen and Demonen Chat (Verbatim)lowlander
Are there any dragons (like real dragons (=animals)) in Rand's world? If not where did they get the idea of dragons?Robert Jordan
There are no animal dragons of any kind in this world. The people speak of a man called the Dragon. They know that the banner that has a certain creature on it was the banner of this man and they have taken to calling this creature the dragon. To them it is a simple association with the name of this man.Tags
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Interview: Jan 7th, 2003
COT Signing Report - David Funke (Verbatim)Question
The question is, with Rand and Lews Therin, do they have one soul or two souls in the body?Robert Jordan
They have one soul with two personalities. The reincarnation of souls does not mean reincarnation of personalities. The personality develops with each reincarnation of the soul. This is the cosmology that I have cobbled together.Tags
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Interview: Jan 7th, 2003
COT Signing Report - David Funke (Verbatim)Question
If Rand is the reincarnation of Lews Therin, why does he have no contact with personalities before Lews Therin?Robert Jordan
Read and find out.FOOTNOTE—JASON DENZEL
Ahh, the year's first "RAFO". I was wondering how long it would take.Tags
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Interview: Jan 7th, 2003
COT Signing Report - Ted Herman (Verbatim)Question
The question is, with Rand and Lews Therin, do they have one soul or two souls in the body?Robert Jordan
They have one soul with two personalities. The reincarnation of souls does not mean reincarnation of personalities. The personality develops with each reincarnation of the soul. This is the cosmology that I have cobbled together.Tags
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Interview: Jan 7th, 2003
COT Signing Report - Ted Herman (Verbatim)Question
If Rand is the reincarnation of Lews Therin, why does he have no contact with personalities before Lews Therin?Robert Jordan
Read and Find Out.Tags
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Interview: Feb 26th, 2003
tarvalon.net Q&A (Verbatim)It has also been further confirmed that:Robert Jordan
—Taimandred is bogus.
—Rand has only one soul, but has two personalities.
—Museam Replicas will be producing the Sword and Dragon pins as well as an approved version of the Great Serpent ring (which apparently goes around the finger twice before biting its own tail).
—Someone has correctly deduced who killed Asmodean, so no one should ever ask him that question again.
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Interview: Apr 27th, 2004
Wotmania Interview (Verbatim)Wotmania
Did Ishamael come to Lews Therin Telamon's palace in the prologue of The Eye of The World to kill him?Robert Jordan
No. To taunt him with his defeat. Ishamael would much rather have had Lews Therin alive and suffering from the knowledge of defeat, not to mention the murder of his wife and other blood kin, than simply dead.Tags
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Interview: Sep 3rd, 2005
DragonCon Report - Isabel (Verbatim)Question
Ishamael mentions in prior turnings of the Wheel that the soul of Lews Therin was raised up as the Shadow's champion, and if that is the case, who was the champion of the Creator?Robert Jordan
You believe Ishamael??? Sorry, man, but c'mon!Footnote
RJ effectively answered this question twice in 2003: 1) for tarvalon.net, and 2) for Tim Kington on the Crossroads of Twilight book tour. The first version of the question (which clearly refers to Rand, as Ishamael was talking about Rand, and RJ said Ishamael did not lie) seems to contradict this one, but it doesn't, really. RJ does not say here explicitly that Ishamael lied, so it seems that he was avoiding the question of who would be the Champion of the Light if Rand turned. He could hardly say RAFO without leading the reader to believe that Rand would be somehow turned to the Shadow before the end.Tags
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Interview: Sep 3rd, 2005
DragonCon Report - Isabel (Verbatim)Question
I have a question about the Nine Rods of Dominion. We have a couple of references to this, and Ishamael says that Lews Therin summoned the Nine Rods of Dominion. And theories have been floating around, are the Oath Rods not the Nine Rods of Dominion?Robert Jordan
They were not the Oath Rods.Question
Well are they positions of power, were they people, or were they actual rods?Robert Jordan
They were actual people, and they were, but you might call them regional governors of the earth, regional governors of the planet. So if I say, summon them, then we've got a guy who has been given in effect ultimate power.Tags
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Interview: Sep 2nd, 2005
DragonCon Report - Isabel (Paraphrased)Question
Is one of the effects of the taint to lower the boundaries between past lives or is Rand a special case?Robert Jordan
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Interview: Sep 4th, 2005
DragonCon Report - Matt Hatch (Paraphrased)Question
This is a question about The Great Hunt. When Mat and Perrin found out Rand could channel, Mat related a story to him he heard from a merchant guard in the Two Rivers about a male channeler who woke up and found his entire village smashed right around him except for the bed he was sleeping in. So, with regards to multiple personalities that a channeler can get like in Rand's case, is it possible for one of them to take over when the channeler falls asleep?Robert Jordan
Well, you're...I can answer that question, but I realize in answering that question I am going to have to RAFO you, because I can't answer your question without telling you some stuff I don't want to tell you yet, sorry.Tags
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Interview: Oct 21st, 2005
KOD Signing Report - Tim Kington (Paraphrased)Question
When Rand hears Lews Therin, is this happening across time, or are they both in the present?Robert Jordan
They're both in the present.Tags
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Interview: Oct 21st, 2005
KOD Signing Report - Scott Carlson (Paraphrased)Scott Carlson
The first was: "Lately Lews Therin has been in Rand's head increasingly, and increasingly, Lews Therin has been bemoaning that he's got voices in his head. Is Lews Therin merely a disembodied voice in Rand's head in Rand's time, or is there some kind of time-spanning link between them, and Rand is concurrently a disembodied voice in Lews Therin's head in the Age of Legends?"Robert Jordan
RJ replied that it is the former; that Lews Therin is a disembodied voice that refuses to believe he is a disembodied voice.Tags
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Interview: Oct 27th, 2009
TGS Midnight Release Preliminary Report - Matt Hatch (Paraphrased)Matt Hatch
Was the taint influential in the creation/development/existence of the voice of Lews Therin in Rand's head?Brandon Sanderson
Brandon answered that the taint was influential, but not the only factor. He referenced Semirhage, that of course we can't believe the Forsaken always, but yes, that the taint was an influence in the the voice. That we have to accept that in fact, in a way, Rand is going insane (as in as the books progress).Tags
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Interview: Oct 27th, 2009
BYU: TGS Midnight Release - Jennifer McBride (Paraphrased)Question
How extensive were RJ's notes about Lews Therin?Brandon Sanderson
His notes about Lews Therin, I would say are about middle extensive, comparatively of different things that he has notes on. Less than some, more than others. They were extensive enough that I know enough things you don't know to make me excited, but not so extensive that you know, you are ever going to see a book about Lews Therin or anything like that.
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As a followup question, are the notes about Lews Therin the same notes about the voice of Lews Therin's?
Brandon Sanderson
You know I think that's enough of a spoiler because there is still confusion or not confusion, wondering from people whether or not Lews Therin is the voice, I mean, of course Semirhage said that it is...Robert Jordan never really made that explicit himself. What I think and what you think may be different and so we'll just leave it. There are things about this in the book.
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Interview: Oct 27th, 2009
BYU: TGS Midnight Release - Jennifer McBride (Paraphrased)Question
What was your reaction when you finished The Gathering Storm?Brandon Sanderson
It was an enormous sigh of relief, followed by a, how should I say it, a curiosity what kinds of screams I would get when people read the last chapter of the book.Tags
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Interview: Nov 6th, 2009
TGS Signing Report - Paul Grow (Paraphrased)Question
Another asked him, considering how The Gathering Storm ends, if he will miss writing in Lews Therin's voice.Brandon Sanderson
Brandon said probably, but he was not 100% sure that we will not see Lews Therin's voice again.Tags
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Interview: Nov 7th, 2009
TGS Signing Report - Meg Lurvey (Paraphrased)Brandon Sanderson
Robert Jordan never really intended to clarify about whether Rand is hearing Lews Therin because he's insane or if he's really there.Tags
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Interview: Nov 2nd, 2009
GeekDad
Anyone who knows the books at all knows that Rand al'Thor hears the voice of Lews Therin in his head—sometimes cackling like a madman, other times more helpfully. After wading through all of Robert Jordan's notes, and listening to those dictated comments, do you have a new sympathy for Rand?Brandon Sanderson
Robert Jordan dropped a bomb at the end of Knife of Dreams, with what Semirhage was saying about or to Rand, talking about his level of stability. I remember as a reader, going through as a kid—I think Robert Jordan blindsided me with Lews Therin, because I'd been told that "Rand will go mad, Rand will go mad," but I didn't accept that voice as Rand going mad. I accepted that as another person, inside of Rand's head, and not a delusion or anything like that. Across the course of the books, Robert Jordan brought together this thing that he'd promised: "No, look, this guy is just going crazy. Yes, he's seeing part of his past life, but he's going insane. It's the immense pressure that's doing this." In looking through the notes, and seeing what Rand has to go through, it's hard not to sympathize with the poor guy.
Robert Jordan once said in an interview, when someone tried to get him to boil down the series to its core—he first said, you can't boil down this series. I wrote it as long as I did because that's how long I needed to tell the story, and so boiling it down doesn't work. But he finally did say this: At its essence, this series is about what it's like to be told that you need to save the world, and that it's probably going to cost your life. Even all of the other characters, you could say that that is a theme for them, too. Egwene has had to give up the life that she'd assumed that she was going to live, and to adopt this other life in the name of the greater good. And that's happening to everybody. Kings and queens are being cast down, and people who thought that their lives were just going to be normal and stable, and that's all they really wanted, are being forced to take upon themselves these mantles of responsibility. And Rand is at the very heart of that. Rand is the center, the example for all of them of what they're having to go through, and it's the worst for him.
GeekDad
True—but I also meant for you as the writer finishing someone else's series: As you're writing, you surely have Robert Jordan's voice rattling around in your head.Brandon Sanderson
(Laughs.) It does kind of feel like that at times, particularly after I've spent some time reading Robert Jordan's writing and then jumping into the book. It is like I have this voice saying, "Well, do it this way," or "This is how I would approach it." Juggling Brandon and Robert Jordan and trying to make sure that this isn't a Brandon book—but it's also not going to be a Robert Jordan book—and making sure that it's a Wheel of Time book. That's been a delicate balance.Footnote—Terez
I commented on the Dragonmount forums when I found this interview that it seemed that Brandon had accidentally confirmed construct theory in this interview, and that I suspected someone on Team Jordan had said something to him about it, resulting in the vaguer answers that followed on the book tour. Luckers emailed Brandon and got this response:
Brandon Sanderson
James,
Feel free to post this response from me.
"I stand by everything I said in those interviews; I did not make any miss-steps. However, there is one big misinterpretation. Terez says that I was asked by Team Jordan to be more secretive. That's not the case. There was one time when Harriet asked me to be more secretive, but that was in regards to spoilers about Towers of Midnight when I was working on it, and she felt (rightly) that I was hinting about too many things that would come in the book.
I have not settled, and do not intend to settle, this debate except in regard to the things placed specifically in the books. The Geekdad interview response is primarily talking about my own reactions as a reader the first time I read specific scenes, long before I saw what was in the notes. At that point, as a fan, my view of the books shifted.
Those views may have shifted again while looking at the notes. I have not said, and will continue not to say, what was in them on this point. There are clues in the text. That is always the way it has been, and I think that is sufficient for this conversation. However, I can explicitly say there was no "Team Jordan order of silence" on this particular point. In fact, there have been few (or none) of those except in regards to spoiling surprises for the books not yet in print. I prefer to keep it that way, which is why I generally ask interviewers to run my interviews past Team Jordan for clarification, and so that they know what I'm saying and can steer me if I do happen to stray into areas best left quiet."
Best,
BrandonFootnote—Terez
Of course, the bolded bits (emphasis mine) are still telling, and there must have been some reason why he decided to be less open about his feelings after this point.
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Interview: Nov 10th, 2009
TGS Signing Report - Lexington, KY (Paraphrased)Brandon Sanderson
Jordan was intentionally vague about the issue of Rand and Lews Therin's one soul and what part madness played in the two identities.Tags
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Interview: Nov 14th, 2009
TGS Signing Report - Matoyak (Paraphrased)Question
There have been rumors that you have said that Mr. Jordan did not have anything in his notes about the voice of Lews Therin, whether it was a construct or not. That or that you had sai—[cut off]Brandon Sanderson
I would like to clarify this, thanks for asking. I will NOT say that it was not in the notes. However, Mr. Jordan did NOT want to reveal this information, and therefore I shall not ever either. Mr. Jordan did not want to reveal it.Harriet McDougal Rigney
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Interview: Nov 14th, 2009
TGS Signing Report - Matoyak (Paraphrased)Matoyak
Can you elaborate on why the voice of Lews Therin was not speaking when Rand and Isha—I mean Moridin were talking? Is it becau—Brandon Sanderson
Ah. Yes, well, I'm going to have to RAFO that one...too close to dealing with the specifics of the voice, sorry.Tags
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Interview: Sep 21st, 2010
Matt Hatch
(for WSB): The next question is from a Theorylander. Did Ishamael’s healing of Lews Therin back in the prologue of The Eye of the World create the same doctor-patient bond as when Nynaeve healed Egwene?
Brandon Sanderson
No, not that I know. I think that I would know, but no.
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Interview: Aug 31st, 2011
Reddit AMA 2011 (Verbatim)Matt Hatch ()
We see the know that Dragonmount was created when Lews Therin killed himself. I've always thought this to be 100% an effect of the way he killed himself, but now I'm doubting that to be the whole story. In his death, did Lews Therin's connection to the Land as the Dragon affect the earth in any way? Did his connection contribute to any of the destruction after his death, or even the creation of Dragonmount?Brandon Sanderson
His connection was an influence, but not the primary one. He really did build Dragonmount with the Power.Tags
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Interview: Nov 19th, 2011
Alloy of Law Signing Report - ValMar (Paraphrased)Question
The discussion about Rand and Lews Therin in his head has been framed as either a) Lews Therin is a construct created by Rand; b) Lews Therin is a real, separate person taking residence in Rand's head. Is the answer really limited to one of those two alternatives?Brandon Sanderson
RAFO, since there will be plenty of Rand's points of view in A Memory of Light.Tags
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Interview: 2001
Thus Spake the Creator (Paraphrased)Signing Report (The Age of Legends)
Tonight I asked him, sneakily and in-between two people asking him to sign their books, about whether or not anything was still remaining from Lews Therin's palace, in other words if there were still ruins left of it in the current world.Robert Jordan
Sadly, he answered a very clear "No, nothing is left of that anymore."
REPORTER
This means that the ruins underneath the Panarch's palace in Tanchico are not the ruins of Lews Therin's palace.
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Interview: May 6th, 2004
Turin Book Fair Reports (Translated)mko
Will Rand al'Thor's internal conflict be resolved?Robert Jordan
RAFO.Tags
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Interview: May 6th, 2004
Turin Book Fair Reports (Translated)mko
I asked Jordan: "Will Rand al'Thor sooner or later win the internal conflict that gripped him by the second book?"Robert Jordan
On the American websites there is a term used in these cases: RAFO - read and find out.
MKO
I personally also asked if anyone has been interested in making a film inspired by his books, he replied that someone was interested in doing a film of The Eye of the World .... but for now there is still nothing concrete.
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Interview: Dec 2nd, 2010
4th Age Podcast Interview with Team Jordan (Verbatim)Virginia
I want to just throw something in at the last minute, because it just popped into my mind because of that, and I'm sure this is going to be another Read And Find Out. Can you tell us anything about the lack of Lews Therin's voice now that Rand has had his so-called 'epiphany' on Dragonmount…is that an actual 'merging' of the characters? Are we done with the voice of Lews Therin?Maria Simons
I need to learn Old Tongue for 'Read And Find Out'. [laughter]
VIRGINIA
I'm still waiting for 'May the Light illumine you'! [laughs] I was hoping somebody'd pop up with that for the podcast, and that's how I try to close each episode, so that's why I asked Brandon for it. I'm just gonna have to hound him.
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Interview: Apr, 2012
Twitter: SwanCon 2012 - PRK (Paraphrased)Terez (8 April 2012)
Ask him if the manner of the Aiel service to the Aes Sedai in the Age of Legends was just Singing, or if it was also domestic.
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As a follow-up you could ask him if female Voices were also used in non-Earthy scenarios, i.e. to enhance saidar in particular?
TEREZ
And ask him if non-Aiel could really have the Voice (assuming the type that enhances channeling) or if Lews Therin was just confused.
Brandon Sanderson
PRK
Lews Therin was confused about time and place, but what he was saying was possible.
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There was more than just singing, but Brandon wasn't willing to go into it. Unsure if that was RAFO or irrelevance.
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Brandon said he wasn't willing to talk much about the Voice things. I got the sense it was a subtle RAFO.
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Interview: Jan 12th, 2011
SLC Signing Report - Matt Hatch (Paraphrased)Luckers
Was Lews Therin one with the land like Rand is?Brandon Sanderson
The Dragon is one with the land...so the answer is yes.
Matt Hatch
He went on to say that it says the Dragon, not the Dragon Reborn, making the point that it most definitely applied to Lews Therin. (I riffed off a second related question from Luckers which was: Did he have the same extra abilities?) Instead I asked:
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Considering what you mentioned regarding Lews Therin's ability to sense the lack of inhabitants within miles of the spot he was at in the Prologue, is this ability something that comes from being the Dragon, being ta'veren, or a Talent?
Brandon Sanderson
(paraphrased) It's not a Talent, but I won't say whether it is a factor of being the Dragon or something about being ta'veren.
Matt Hatch
Luckers, I asked this question because the way Brandon answered the first it seemed apparent to me that the Dragon is Lews Therin is Rand, as far as 'one with the land' and abilities. My interest then became that specific ability he noted in Lews Therin during the re-read.)
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Interview: Nov 4th, 2010
TOM Signing Report - Eformo (Paraphrased)Eformo
Brandon Sanderson
When I had the chance, I asked Brandon whether or not Lews Therin knew The Song during the Age of Legends and drew a RAFO.Tags
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Interview: Nov 4th, 2010
TOM Signing Report - Eformo (Paraphrased)Eformo
Brandon Sanderson
I got a more circumspect RAFO when I asked whether or not he personally thinks of Rand as Rand after the end of The Gathering Storm, or if he now thinks of the amalgam as a different character. He thought that it would be apparent after reading the POV in both Towers of Midnight and A Memory of Light.Tags
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Interview: 2012
Twitter 2012 (WoT) (Verbatim)M. Pry (5 November 2012)
Something I've always wondered. In the Age of Legends was Lews Therin aware he was the Champion of Light (with previous memories of past lives)?Brandon Sanderson ()
He did not, so far as I know, have memories of past lives.Tags
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Interview: 2013
Twitter 2013 (WoT) (Verbatim)The Sandwich Man (13 January 2013)
Just read A Memory of Light, one of my all-time favorites. But for clarification, what, exactly, did Rand do to seal the Bore?Brandon Sanderson (13 January 2013)
I want to avoid spoilers on my feed, if possible. But it involved access to something Lews Therin did not have.Tags
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Interview: Jan 7th, 2013
AMOL Midnight Release Q&A (Verbatim)Drew McCaffrey
My name is Drew McCaffrey; I'm from Fort Collins, Colorado. I've been an absolutely huge fan of the series for eleven years now, and I just recently graduated as a creative writing major, and I'm a writer because of the Wheel of Time. [applause, cheers]
My question is in regards to a debate that I've had with my cousin and a couple of my friends for a while now. Is it possible for a channeler to be tied to the Horn of Valere?
Maria Simons
(Brandon passes mic to Maria, laughter) Um, I think I'm gonna have to say, that's a really good question. [laughter] I honestly can't say why not.
Drew McCaffrey
(to his friends) HA! [laughter, applause]
Maria Simons
But! But I would really love to do some research before giving an absolute definitive answer [laughter] and I can't do that right now.
Drew McCaffrey
Would Lews Therin's soul be tied to the Horn?
Brandon Sanderson
Lews Therin! He was.
Maria Simons
Well yeah. [laughter]
Brandon Sanderson
He was recognized.
Maria Simons
That's right. Absolutely.
Brandon Sanderson
He was recognized, but was he tied to the Horn? Do we have confirmation of that happening? [laughter] Or they just know him? See, he's trying to trick us into saying things.
Harriet McDougal
Maria's saying she'll have to look it up and post it.
Drew McCaffrey
Ooh. Agreed. Well, thank you very much, all of you, for being here tonight and...yeah. [laughter, applause]
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Interview: Jan 7th, 2013
AMOL Midnight Release Q&A (Verbatim)Brandon Sanderson
We blame people like these, that came up with this, but I do want to—and thank you for your question—I do want to hand...(to Matt) You had a correction on something we said earlier? Do you have it? Okay, Matt's going to correct us from what we were unable to answer, because Robert Jordan apparently gave an answer.
Matt Hatch
So, there was a question about the Dragon soul, and whether that was a title or not—was that your question?—so, he did answer. Someone asked him, because it had to do with...the entirety of the question was, you know, can it change? Could it be a woman, could it be a female? Would it be the same person in a new Turning? And his point, his answer was, it could not be female—that the soul would remain the same gender—and he also said that it would not necessarily be Rand in the next Turning. So in other words, it would still be that same soul, but it would not be—necessarily—the Rand story, the next time around. It might be...whatever. And he talked about it just because, looking at the Pattern as things change in Turnings, little things are going to change, or I guess in this case, maybe it's something bigger. So, I don't know if that answers your question, but that is answered again.
Adam Simmons
The question was really more about Lews Therin as the original Dragon, or as the original Dragon that we know about, and was he born to be the Dragon, or is that something that he kind of grew into?
Matt Hatch
It's the soul, the soul is the Dragon.
Adam Simmons
Okay, so he was born to it.
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Interview: Nov 4th, 2012
Rebecca Lovatt
In Lord of Chaos, there’s a point when Rand is in Shadar Logoth, and Lews Therin whispers to him "I must kill Demandred." Is there some sort of connection between Demandred and Shadar Logoth?Brandon Sanderson
There may well be... I'm not sure if I can answer that question, so... RAFO.Tags
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Interview: Apr, 2003
Budapest Q&A (Verbatim)Question
Did Lews Therin have any children?Robert Jordan
Yeah.
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What happened with them?
Robert Jordan
He killed them.
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Okay, okay. He killed them.
Robert Jordan
He killed his wife. He killed his children. He killed everyone who bore a single drop of his blood. He was Lews Therin Kinslayer, remember.
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Interview: Apr, 2013
Waygate Foundation Q&A (Verbatim)Question
In Lord of Chaos, ch 21, "To Shadar Logoth", Lews Therin whispers to Rand: "There is darkness here. Blackness blacker than black. If the Dark One chose to live among men, he would choose here" and then "I must kill Demandred" to which Rand responds "Does Demandred have some connection to Shadar Logoth?" And Lews Therin says nothing. So...does he? Or is it alluding to the possibility that Barid Bel went seeking a way to defeat the Shadow which ended up in corrupting him in the same way Mordeth was corrupted?Maria Simons
I can find nothing relating Demandred to Shadar Logoth; note that after the Demandred bit, Lews Therin starts talking about Ishamael and Lanfear, and doesn't appear to be answering Rand's questions at all. I think that it's safe to assume that Lews Therin is just rambling insanely.Tags
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Interview: Apr 20th, 2013
JordanCon 2013 - Q&A with Maria (Verbatim)Terez
Does Rand still have Lews Therin's memories?Maria Simons
I don't know.Tags
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Interview: Apr 20th, 2013
JordanCon 2013 - Q&A with Maria (Verbatim)Terez
I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this one, but in the Age of Legends, was the middle or the third name the honorific? Like, Lews Therin was his first and last name, and Telamon is the third name that he got when...Maria Simons
Yeah. Like Berid Bel, and then Medar.Tags
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Interview: Nov 6th, 2012
Weller Book Works Signing - Josh & Mi'ch (Verbatim)Question
In the prologue it sounds like Lews Therin balefires himself, and then is reborn as Rand al’Thor.
Brandon Sanderson
He does not balefire himself, so I can answer that. He does not.
QUESTION
So it’s just something that sounds a lot like balefire?
BRANDON SANDERSON
Yes- well there’s various interpretations of what happens there. He um- yeah there’s various interpretations of what actually killed him. If you go look and read closely, what actually killed him may be- could be subject to some debate.
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